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Reader discussion: Second Variety
Public reader discussion about Second Variety in the WeRead Catalog by Philip K. Dick.
PKD was a prolific author. Are all his books good or are there some bad ones?
By bottle
I didn’t realize how many books PKD had written until I looked into it. I’ve only read four so far, and honestly they’re all ones I found from “best PKD” type Google lists.
I’ve liked every one I’ve read, though. Does that mean it’s probably safe to assume most of his books are good? Or are there some stinkers I should steer clear of?
Best way to get ALL PKD short stories as ebook?
By MarkReads
So if I buy these ebook volumes, do they actually have all of his short stories? Like are all of the stories included across:
- Beyond Lies The Wub: Volume One Of The Collected Stories
- Second Variety: Volume Two Of The Collected Stories
- The Father-Thing: Volume Three Of The Collected Stories
- Minority Report: Volume Four Of The Collected Stories
- We Can Remember It For You Wholesale: Volume Five Of The Collected Stories
And is that whole collection already covered in *Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams: Volume 1: The stories which inspired the hit Channel 4 series*?
Thanks!
What are the Philip K Dick essential books?
By fish_pages
My birthday’s coming up and I want to add some of his more well-known novels to my shelf. What would you recommend I ask for?
I already have the Library of America set, and so far I’ve got (and read) everything in there except:
Martian Time-Slip, Dr. Bloodmoney, Now Wait for Last Year, A Maze of Death, VALIS, The Divine Invasion, and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer.
Also I loved Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and A Scanner Darkly was just brutal in the best way. What else should I pick from his popular stuff?
Philip K. Dick favourites?
By red-bison
I finally picked up *Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?* and I loved it. I was hooked right away and couldn’t really stop reading—felt like I hadn’t been that into a book in ages.
It’s the first Philip K. Dick book I’ve read, so now I’m just curious what you all think his best ones are. Any favorites you’d recommend I check out next?
I want to get into the short stories of Philip K. Dick, where to start?
By curiousMargin2004
I want to buy a book that’s a collection of short stories, but I have no clue where to start. Every time I search online, I mostly just get results about the movies that were made from the stories, and I really don’t want spoilers. Which collection should I read first?
PHILIP K. DICK'S SECOND VARIETY AUDIO-DRAMA MINI-SERIES
By bluezenith7941
Just put up the final episode of our whole run on Philip K. Dick’s story about the future war, robots, and trying to save humanity. Honestly, it feels like something you’d want to binge if you’re stuck at home dealing with the whole shelter-in-place vibe.
We’re 100% independent, but we really went for that big, blockbuster action sci-fi feel that a PKD story seems to call for. The voice cast has Sandeep Parikh, Amy Vorpahl, Kelli Dawn Hancock, plus a bunch of others. If you’re into that kind of thing, I’d definitely check it out and subscribe.
We Can Remember It for You Wholesale, Philip K. Dick [.pdf]--a meta-fictional short story about memory and egoism within sci-fi pulp.
By AmberNotebook8
I’m pretty sure this book is where Total Recall got its ideas. Yeah, I think that’s the case.
Philip K. Dick recommendation for beginners?
By pencil_pale1992
I really want to get into his writing more, but so far I’ve only read *The Man in the High Castle*. What should I try next if I want a good place to start?
Do I just go with the “obvious” one like *Do Androids…*, or should I jump into one of his story collections instead?
For reference, my usual sci-fi love is Alastair Reynolds, and I’m also into Asimov, Iain M. Banks, and Hamilton. I’m big on far-future space opera, but I’d like something that digs into reality/a sense of what’s real a bit more, not just stuff set thousands of years ahead. Appreciate any suggestions! ♥
PHILIP K. DICK'S SECOND VARIETY AUDIO-DRAMA MINI-SERIES
By spruce_honest6
Just dropped the final episode of our big future-war, robots, and humanity-fighting story based on Philip K. Dick. It’s totally the kind of thing I’d binge when you’re stuck at home and feeling that shelter-in-place mood.
We’re an indie crew, but we really tried to make it feel like a huge, big-budget action sci-fi movie the way a PKD story kind of deserves. The voices are solid too—Sandeep Parikh, Amy Vorpahl, Kelli Dawn Hancock, and a bunch of others. If you like that kind of stuff, definitely give it a listen and subscribe.
Which author has the best/coolest book titles?
By heatherkey1989
I feel like Faulkner and Fitzgerald were especially great at coming up with novel titles. I haven’t read every one of them, but just seeing the names makes me want to check them out.
Faulkner
- As I Lay Dying
- The Sound and the Fury
- Absalom, Absalom!
- Go Down, Moses
- The Unvanquished
- Intruder in the Dust
Fitzgerald
- The Beautiful and Damned
- This Side of Paradise
- The Great Gatsby
- The Last Tycoon
- Tender is the Night
Who else is pretty good at naming their novels?
Have you read Second Variety by Philip K. Dick, 1953? Here is a link for the full short story and some of my thoughts about it. I would like to hear your views in the comments below.
By WandersPencil5
Yeah, I’ve read it—really good. I think they even made a movie from it.
The most confusing Philip K. Dick movie ever is also the most faithful
By sunQuill
Oh wow, Screamers… I always blank on that it’s Philip K. Dick.
Screamers is such a good movie, too—I have no clue why people think it’s confusing.
Peter Weller is really on his sci-fi game here, and it’s also the first time I saw Andy Lauer.
“Don’t forget to smoke your Reds.”
Do you think Philip K. Dick is the number 1 greatest science fiction writer of all time? If not who else would you put on his level?
By nightprose3
I don’t really have a single “top” sci-fi writer, but PKD has to be up there among the best. He’s one of my personal favorites for sure.
Screamers - 1995
By luckypencil7
This is based on the short story “Second Variety” by Philip K. Dick, right? I haven’t seen the movie in ages, but now I kind of want to go back and watch it again.
Suggest me short stories that are dystopian, involve tech, or are just futuristic
By MariaReads
I’m really into the Black Mirror kind of vibe—like, stuff that has heavier themes and makes you stop and think. Also, I’m hoping it’s written in third person. And for the main character(s), I’d prefer someone around 19–35, though if they’re a bit younger or older, that’s fine too.
Top 10 PKD Novels?
By harmonyCoastal1979
PKD is getting really fast into my favorites. I’ve read 4 of his novels so far, plus a handful of short stories, and I’m trying to work my way through about a third of his catalog over the next few years. I can already tell there are like 5–6 novels that people call the “must reads,” but the rest of his books all sound just as interesting too.
So I’m curious—what are your top 10 PKD novels?
What other Philip K Dick book would recommend after reading this?
By OrchidTable1988
I’m really not sure what to make of Ubik, but I couldn’t stop reading it.
Philip K. Dick: a whole lot of material, not a lot of time. My attempt to help newcomers discover a love for Dick.
By BalanceCandle14
Sorry about the pun—I really couldn’t help it.
Philip K. Dick is basically the poster kid for “cult writer.” He wrote a ton, didn’t get much fame or money while he was alive, but somehow his work ended up being a foundation for a huge chunk of science fiction. And it took a while, but people definitely figured out how good he was.
Without him, you don’t really get stuff like *Total Recall*, *Minority Report*, or *Blade Runner*. He feels like one of the big names from the post-WWII sci-fi wave, and the wild part is just how much he put out. I remember wanting to start reading him and realizing I had no clue where to begin—because he has something like 44 novels and over 100 short stories. That’s kind of what makes me sad though: not all of it is great. I love PKD, but some of it is super dated, and some of it is just… not good.
I’m posting this mostly because I want to make it a little easier for people who want to try him but don’t know where to jump in. I’ve read a decent amount, but I’m not some super expert, so I’m curious what other people think too.
## Quick intro thoughts
I love him, but he’s not immune to criticism. A lot of his stuff is 40-60 years old, so some “future” ideas don’t hold up, and a few of his scenarios kind of ignore the science of the time. Like, the idea of going from Europe to California in like 4 minutes without everyone dying—basic physics would probably turn that into a disaster. Also, sometimes his characters feel a little flat.
That said, I don’t think he gets enough credit for his prose. It can be pretty straightforward and plot-first compared to writers who really play with language and structure, but there are moments where it just hits. When he gets the tone right and something lands in that gut-punch way, I honestly just think, “yeah—well put.” He talks about style and that kind of thing in the intro to *The Golden Man* collection.
Some themes he keeps coming back to: interplanetary colonization (Mars/Jupiter/Moon stuff, and Earth is usually wrecked by global warming/pollution/nuclear fallout). And the whole God/spirituality angle—he makes up weird metaphor religions, shows different belief stuff, and sometimes it feels like people are “following” things like they’re being herded by TV or ads or whatever. And then there’s the trippy reality question: characters wondering what’s real, only for it to get worse. Like, how can they ever be sure they’re not losing their minds or stuck in some other layer?
## Books (not in any specific order)
These are just the big ones, and basically where I’d tell a newcomer to start before going deeper into the weirder stuff.
- **Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?**: This is his biggest “mainstream” entry. If you like *Blade Runner*, this is basically the source. If you haven’t seen the movie, you should. The movie and the book aren’t the same story, and I read the book after the film, but it didn’t ruin anything for me. It’s set after nuclear war, with people leaving Earth for off-world colonies—but someone still has to handle the androids first. It’s illegal for androids to live on Earth, and Deckard is basically tasked with “retiring” them. It’s super cynical and digs into what it even means to be human, plus it runs two tracks: Deckard doing his job and the androids trying to cause trouble. There’s also that weird religious conflict, with a TV-centered thing versus an old man climbing a hill while people try to mess with him. Lots of ideas, and it’s probably the best place to start.
- **A Scanner Darkly**: This is my favorite. The movie version uses that rotoscope style and has a stacked cast (Downey Jr, Harrelson, Reeves, Winona Ryder). I’d still say read the book first, though. It’s about drugs and undercover work: Bob Arctor is an undercover narc in a futuristic DEA trying to wipe out Substance D. It’s got that “who am I really” thing going, especially since he’s investigating himself without fully knowing it. He ends up using enough of the drug that he starts to break mentally. It can drag a bit, but it also has some genuinely great moments—like it swings from funny to heartbreaking. I think the writing works best here. Also the audiobook is great.
- **VALIS**: Some people call this his masterpiece, but I don’t. I think it has decent ideas, but it doesn’t land as well. It’s really trippy. It kind of has the same identity-crisis vibe as *Scanner*, but then it goes hard into God stuff—like the main character thinks he’s getting hit with the full consciousness of God through this pink beam of light. The first chunk (or most of it) gets kind of dry and rambling with religious theory, which made it harder to get through than it felt like it should be. The story itself is okay but it sort of fizzles out, and it was supposed to be part of a trilogy that he didn’t finish. Maybe I’d like it more if I kept going into the next part, but for now I’d say don’t start here.
- **Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said**: The premise is awesome: a famous guy wakes up and he’s not a person anymore—no one recognizes him, and in a fascist America that’s basically a death sentence. He’s afraid of being arrested and thrown into an internment camp because he doesn’t have the right job or ID. It’s pretty decent, just kind of unsettling and “what the hell is going on” the whole time. Strong sense of urgency and tragedy. I’d recommend it.
- **The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch**: This one is a straight-up mind trip. I read it right after *Flow* and it definitely sent me somewhere weird. It involves alternate realities, a colony on Mars still being terraformed, and a drug that lets people project their minds onto dolls. There’s also Palmer Eldritch, who comes back from deep space with a new drug meant to make life way better for colonists. It’s a lot—just don’t try to make it all perfectly “meaningful.” Just let it be weird and go along for the ride.
- **The Man in the High Castle**: Alternate WWII timeline where the Axis wins—Germany and Japan split up the US. If you’ve seen the show, it diverges a ton from the book. The book isn’t really about “here’s what the whole world looks like,” at least not in the way I expected, and I don’t want to spoil anything. It won a Hugo and it’s super well-regarded. It’s not my favorite PKD, but the concepts are interesting. There’s also this banned book in it that shows what things would’ve been like if the Allies won. Just keep your expectations realistic and enjoy it as its own thing.
So yeah—those are the six big ones, and my thoughts on them. If you’re brand new, I’d say **start with *Androids***, then do **(*Flow My Tears*)**, and then **(*A Scanner Darkly*)**. After that, you should have a better idea whether you want more of his straight-to-the-point stuff or if you’re cool with the more offbeat, off-rails experiments. Also his short stories are genuinely great, and there are a bunch of good collections.
## Short stories / collections
My favorite collection is *The Golden Man*, but there are a lot of cheap collections that are totally worth it, and you can find some of his stuff online for free anyway. I like *Golden Man* for two reasons: my sister got me a copy used because she heard I wanted to try PKD, and because his intro is so honest—poverty, his opinions on style, and how much he loves writing. Anyway, I’ll stop rambling.
A few standouts:
- “The King of the Elves” (apparently Disney has rights, but who knows where that’s at)
- “We Can Remember It For You Wholesale” (this became *Total Recall*)
- “The Minority Report” (…yeah, that one)
- “The Mold of Yancy” (honestly really good; the shepherd/sheep vibe)
- “The Golden Man” (the government is scared of human evolution because homo sapiens might become pointless?)
Hope this helps someone. Happy reading!
Why didn't anyone tell me Philip K Dick stories were so funny?
By coldivy2
I only just started reading Philip K. Dick, and I honestly didn’t expect the stuff to be this funny. The movie versions don’t really give me that same vibe for some reason.
Like, Blade Runner feels almost totally joyless, but the book version (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep) is a blast.
And the electric sheep thing—at least in the book—it’s not some metaphor or whatever. It’s just a real robot sheep that Deckard has, and he hates it because it isn’t a true animal. Every time he sees an animal he basically gets this animal catalog out, checks what it costs, and complains he’ll never be able to buy one.
Also, the way he describes tech is so specific it just pops into my head in a ridiculous way. Even though everything is played straight by the characters, somehow it still feels relatable and I end up laughing.
So far, everything I’ve read has kind of been like that, and I’m really into it.
We Can Remember It For You Wholesale- the Total Recall short story!
By badgerpages1987
“We Can Remember It for You Wholesale” — the short story that got turned into the big “Total Recall” movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger. The book I found was pretty thick, and I guess it was one of those collections with a bunch of Philip K. Dick stuff. But this particular story feels almost comically short, like it’s the textbook definition of a short story. Nineteen pages… come on.
You can tell there are definitely connections between the movie characters and the story characters, even down to the smaller roles. But a few parts seem swapped around. And by the time you get to the end, it’s not really like the movie at all, even though there are still similar themes and situations. I’d say it’s worth reading, but I wouldn’t go buy some huge collection just for this one unless you’re really into Dick. You could probably finish it in half an hour or less. I’m hoping I find a couple more things to like in the rest of the collection.
Okay, spoilers-ish: the opening basically matches the movie pretty closely. I can totally see Sharon Stone and Arnold in their roles, though Douglas’s last name is “Quail” in the book, which is not what I’m used to — I prefer “Quaid” from the film. A few other names are different too.
The Rekal guy feels like he’s kind of a mix of the salesman vibe from the movie and that more serious doctor who tries to talk him out of the delusional memory thing, including the whole sweating moment… And Robert Picard’s Johnny Cab lines are pretty much spot on. But once the initial memory implant problem happens, it really starts to drift away from the movie. Honestly, I keep thinking of it like it could be some kind of deleted scene from the movie — like, what else could’ve been in there, since the film is a lot longer.